The Scandals at St. Gertrude the Great

West Chester, Ohio

The Full Documented Story


December 10, 2009 - January 30, 2010


We have been very touched by some of the short notes we have received from our readers.  We might not always know who you are or where you're from, but the sentiments of support you express in your letters are often too moving to simply put aside.  Accordingly we shall be printing on this page a collection of "shorts" -- messages of support and hope from faithful Catholics around the world.  We thank you all, especially for your prayers, and will continue to keep you in our own.  God bless you all.

December 10, 2009

Greetings, my dear editors.  

My name is Michael Grant of Connecticut, a parishioner of Bishop McKenna with close ties to the CMRI.  I just want to thank you for your courage to stand up to what you've been up against.  Recently, I learned that Fr. Cekada has written a short blog piece on Quildbet unjustly comparing Fr. Ramolla to David's son, who sought to overthrow him (Psalm 62).  (Disgraceful, isn't it?)  

Somehow, I knew a day like this would come where Bishop Dolan would lose his mind, try to find a scapegoat for the abuses (that being Fr. Ramolla), and when that didn't work, he starts lashing out against anyone who stands with the truth.  Ever since Bishop Dolan condemned the The Four Marks 15 months ago I knew something was wrong with him.  He had every right to be angry about what Kathleen Plumb had posted, but he had no power to draft an "official" condemnation of a newspaper, which has helped many, among whom I count myself. That situation could have been easily quelled by Bishop Dolan accepting Kathleen's apology and letting bygones be bygones, but no, he let his ego get the better of him.  

15 months later, I can clearly see what his iron-fisted tendencies have generated.  Because of that, our traditionalist circle outside of Ohio are split between who to believe.  Fortunately you have the support of Bishop Neville and Bishop McKenna.  I am glad they support those who stand with Fr. Ramolla. 

My opinion, in a short form of this whole matter, is that it looks like Francis Shuckhardt in direct reverse.  This time, the ones who are causing all the problems stay where they are while the one who is trying to bring about solutions to the problems gets ousted.

Well, gentlemen, once again I say thank you.  

God bless you and keep up the good fight.  It takes a lot of courage to do what you do.  In case I don't hear from you due to your busy schedules, Merry Christmas.  

Michael Grant. 

December 21, 2009

My condolences on the disaster. And good luck to Fr R. If only 10% of what I read online is accurate, it's a bad cause and crieth for mercy.

Joseph Tatroult

December 31, 2009

Thank you for your website. 

 It helps those of us who have heard about SGG  and the scandal there, to get some insight  into what is going on!

My thoughts are that NO CATHOLIC can deal in double talk, lies, deception, detraction etc, and be fit for the kingdom of Heaven, since these are the works of the devil!

My one thought that came to me after I read about this scandal on Dr Drolesky's site was Our Lord's words to the unjust steward: "Take account of your stewardship, because you can be steward no longer!".

These words can't apply more than to this situation!

Our Lady said at LaSalette "what is rotten will fall, and what falls cannot be maintained." 

 The remnant church must be cleansed from all spot before the final coming of Our Lord!

Amy Baldi

January 1, 2010

I wept when I read the January 1, 2010, article at Christ or Chaos. I believe God is blessing you with a kind of martyrdom. Be assured of my humble prayers. And thank you for the Prayer of the Church at The Sacraments and Prayer are the two major channels of divine grace, are they not? Is there no bishop who will ordain you a priest? Perhaps you will be a missionary to the UK. I have been a "home aloner" for four decades since I put away my Roman collar. I rather that it would have been otherwise!

Psalm 46
Our God is our refuge and strength: a helper in troubles, which have found us exceedingly.
Therefore we will not fear, when the earth shall be troubled; and the mountains shall be removed into the heart of the sea.
Their waters roared and were troubled: the mountains were troubled with his strength.
The stream of the river maketh the city of God joyful: the most High hath sanctified his own tabernacle.
God is in the midst thereof, it shall not be moved: God will help it in the morning early.
Nations were troubled, and kingdoms were bowed down: he uttered his voice, the earth trembled.
The Lord of armies is with us: the God of Jacob is our protector.
Come and behold ye the works of the Lord: what wonders he hath done upon earth,
Making wars to cease even to the end of the earth. He shall destroy the bow, and break the weapons: and the shield he shall burn in the fire.
Be still and see that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, and I will be exalted in the earth.
The Lord of armies is with us: the God of Jacob is our protector.

William Henry Roll,
Blythe, California

January 2, 2010

Our prayers and rosary intentions are for your protection and for the truth to be known. We are shocked at the depths to which these three men will go to silence holy souls.

May God be with you. May God give you the strength to see this through to the end.


The Schiebolds

January 6, 2010


 Please say Bravo! and Thank You to Janet Gaye for me.  What she just said in her latest letter needed to be said and she did such an excellent job....and so clear and to the point!

An admirer from Calif. who has kept-up with the 'Mess' that all of you have had to endure.    

You are in my prayers,    

OAMDG, Joe Reid

January 6, 2010

Hello -------,
How are you doing? I have read the latest from sgginfo and the only thing you may see is that they never forget or forgive. All this is really sad.
I just want you to know that I am with you in all this. No matter what happens, we have to remember those excellent words of Saint Paul: "Diligentibus Deum
omnia cooperantur in bonum", and the explanation of Saint Augustine "etiam peccata".
There is, nevertheless, something I’d like to tell you regarding B
ishop Sanborn; it seems to me that your sentence "I pray that Bishop Sanborn's role in all this will eventually evolve into that of peacemaker..." is rather, and please excuse me the word, a bit disingenuous... don’t you know still that they, the three, are but the same thing?, don’t you know yet they always act together? I do not consider MHT a good seminary at all. Bishop Sanborn told me, before firing me: "this is my seminary, I do whatever I want", so you shouldn’t be surprised if Bishop Dolan thinks that SGG is "His" parish, that "He" build it up, etc. It is just the same language, the same mentality.

In fact, this is the reason why they may dismiss anyone who doesn’t agree with them about something. They see the churches and the seminary as something they own, and therefore they set up the rules and conditions, instead of adapting themselves to the Church’s laws. They believe that, since they are the owners, they may legitimately expell someone, despite the prescriptions of the Church. This has become, ultimately, a question of private property. 

Bishop Sanborn will never contradict Bishop Dolan or Father Cekada, or even recognize one single mistake.
Thanks for everything.
In Domino et Domina,
Cristian Jacobo

January 7, 2010 

We received a supportive message from two readers in Arizona.  After a prolonged court case, the pastor of their church was removed, and the lay board brought in Fr. Palma, one of the priests working for Bp. Sanborn. When the couple learned of what happened at SGG, they collected as much information they could about the crisis here and shared it with one of the board members, who claimed there was no proof for the allegations against SGG school and the pastor. In our correspondent's words, here's what ensued:

I brought this info to a board member who told me he knew of the issues and that they could not be proven.  Then he told me to be silent.  So, my husband and I had a meeting with Fr. Palma. We asked him if he knew of SGG's turmoil and he responded with, "It is all false."  I asked, "How do you know this?" He responded, "I trust the Bishops".  I asked, "You come under both Bishops, Sanborn and Dolan?"  "Yes," was his reply. So, to make a long story short, we left, and went to CMRI in Glendale, AZ.  We certainly do not wish to have Our Lady of the Sun come under/owned by Bishop Sanborn.  The turmoil that is happening at SGG can not be overlooked.  How the board of Our Lady of the Sun can desire to align themselves under the "threesome", of Bishop Sanborn, Bishop Dolan and Fr. Cekada, after all the courts, is beyond our understanding  and I find it very sad when my voice was to be silent.  No, that will not happen and so again we thank you for this site and our eternal prayers to all those who are in tribulation! Oh, Jesus, pardon and mercy, by the merits of Thy Holy Wounds and Precious Blood!

And Thank You to Fr. Thielen for reassuring us of the cries of the people there.

Mr. and Mrs James Vogel
Peoria, AZ

January 22, 2010

To the Editors:

Another Freudian slip for Fr. Cekada. It seems he accuses Fr. Jenkins and Fr. Greenwell at IC of requiring general confession of SGG refugees before admission to the Sacraments. Both IC priests categorically deny the accusation. My family and I left SGG for IC in 2006 and no such policy was even hinted at.

Perhaps the reason why general confession is on his mind is that just about every accusation he has hurled is something he is guilty of, most especially the dissemination of lies and calumny in the public forum.

“Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh”. As long as he is making his general public confession, he might try a bit of contrition and restitution to go along with it.

Tim Duff

January 22, 2010

I have been reading all of this terrible mess.  Why do they defend Mark Lotarski so much?  One would think that with all that is going on and all the trouble that is being caused, the Lotarski's would get a clue that it would be better for them to back down and look for somewhere else to work.

Connie Gilbert

January 26, 2010

(Reprinted from a January 11, 2010 posting at

I feel sick inside to see the hardness of heart that Bp. Dolan and Fr. Cekada have displayed. Nobody can reason with them or even try to offer them any guidance. Those who have done so have been fired, expelled from the SGG property and ridiculed. Parishioners who left, many hoping this would make Bp. D. and AC rethink their stance, have discovered that these men really are just so full of themselves that they would rather tear down the temple than admit any faults.

Sadly, I have to admit to myself that I have failed to listen to the little inner voice that told me over the 15 years at SGG that those men are not who they portray themselves to be. I thank God every day for Fr. Ramolla and the other wonderful souls who took a stand against the Emperor and his court. It was their pursuit of the truth and the way they suffered for it that finally made me realize that the little cautioning voice inside of me was correct all along. Isn't it amazing to see how much brighter the sun shines once it appears from out of the clouds? When I compare the humble and kind demeanor of Fr. Ramolla and Fr. Thielen to the haughty and vindictive stance of BP and AC, I know I made the right decision to leave SGG.

Of course, as with all of us, I would love to see the situation corrected at SGG. I would love to see the parishioners who have stayed there have good clergy who care about them and their souls. I really pray that a miracle can change the path of the ill wind that permeates that church. May God's will be done.

I also pray for the continued success of St. Alberts. It is always good to have choices. Even if Bp. Dolan and Fr. Cekada were to clean up their mess, I still would stay as a parishioner to St. Alberts. My pesky little inner voice has stopped chattering at me since I have joined St. Alberts.

May God bless you and all of those who offer so much understanding and comfort on this forum. It has been a HUGE help to me.


January 26, 2010

Greetings, my dear editors.  

Last week, I had the pleasure of seeing Fr. Ramolla here in Connecticut helping Bishop McKenna.  For me, it was a pleasure to see him for the last time I saw him was in Brooksville nearly two years ago.

I saw him offer Mass reverently and with great care and I even had a chance to speak with him after Mass and the best part about that, after two years he still remembered me after all of these months.  All that I speak of here just shoots down the argument that Bishop Dolan presented in his sermon "An Apology" that was given shortly after the scandal started.  

I can swear, with God as my witness, that what I saw that day brings me to this conclusion, a conclusion that I've had all along.  Fr. Ramolla is not crazy and he is not mentally ill.  To suggest otherwise is no different than trying to claim that Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc was senile and out of his mind.

On a brighter note, while I met with Fr. Ramolla, I told him in person that what he is doing is very brave and I cannot possibly imagine what he has to go through to do what he does for the people of St. Albert the Great and for you, my dear friends.  

Besides these things, one of the most memorable things I saw last week was a priest and a bishop helping each other in a time of need.  Bishop McKenna has helped Fr. Ramolla from the very beginning and in return, Fr. Ramolla had come to help Bishop McKenna in light of his recent surgery. 

The parishioners of Our Lady of the Rosary Chapel were very grateful to have Fr. Ramolla offer mass during the week and to have Fr. Thielen come and help on Sunday.  I commented to Fr. Thielen that it was "a call for unity".  

God bless you all, and keep up the good fight.   

Michael Grant

January 30, 2010

Kudos to Fr Markus Ramolla for his letter that will hopefully put to rest this veritable "mudslinging" that has been going on for the past two plus months. From the words of our Lord Jesus Christ:


"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.


By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

(St John 13:34-35).


Warren J Pevnick

SGG Parishioner